Law and the Church

Passed November 24, 2014.  Reviewed by Rev. Kathleen

Laura Fuller (Snow)
CTP Prelim
Church and the Law

1) List nine (9) laws, or as many as possible if less than nine, concerning clergy that you have found by searching your nearest municipality laws. By municipality, we mean on the village or town level. If there are none, then tell us how you found that out.


There are no laws for Medford, WI relating to clergy specifically.  However, I did find the following which could come into play in the performance of the duties of clergy or the activities of a grove.  While none of these laws are specific to the role of clergy, they do have a potential impact of the work of a Grove as these are all activities small religious groups (especially pagans) seem to frequently engage in.   Medford posts its ordinances online via American Legal Publishing Corporation.
The first two seem pertinent in relationship to holding outdoor, public ritual.  City parks may require a permit, depending on the size of the festival we are planning and, more importantly, do not allow burning.  The last might pertain to issues of fundraising, depending on if we wanted to have a booth at the farmers market or some other such venue.
Confirmed with Ginny Brost, the City Clerk, that there were no other ordinances that would pertain to clergy 9/15/14.

§ 9.7.02  PERMITS FOR PARK USE REQUIRED.
This statute determines who needs a permit for park use.  Mostly it relates to commercial sales taking place in the park, but also for the rental of park property, such as pavilions
§ 9.7.06  OPEN BURNING.
This statute discusses fires in the city parks, which are limited to the provided outdoor barbeque grills.  Again, this would potentially impact a groves use of the parks for public ritual.
 § 11.1.01  REGISTRATION REQUIRED.
This statute determines what sorts of permits are required for sales within the city boundaries.  Again, this would only apply to if a grove were hosting an event and wanted to sell things or participate in things such as the local farmers’ market.

2) If there is a body of laws between the municipality laws and the state/provincial laws where you live, list nine (9) laws, or as many as possible if less than nine, concerning clergy, that you have found by searching this area.


The county has nothing online that seems relevant either to clergy or to the duties we perform.  I called at spoke with Jacky Peterson in the County Clerk’s office on September 15, 2014.  She said that in the case of marriages, the Clerk issues the license, which is returned to the Registrar of Deeds for recording, but that they have no step of verifying the legitimacy of the person doing the ceremony.  I asked if that was done at the state level, and she said she didn’t know.  She’d never dealt with a wedding that wasn’t performed at one of the churches.

3) List nine (9) laws concerning clergy that you have found by searching your state/provincial laws.



Over all, the laws fall into the following categories: the duties of clergy that are impacted by the law (marriages and mandatory reporting being the ones with the most legal description) and rule around organized religion (Wisconsin Statutes).

1) 905.06 Communications to members of the clergy.

This law deals with what constitutes clergy, and also what sorts of communications with clergy are confidential.  For example, it gives a list of titles for clergy (minister, priest, rabbi, or other similar functionary of a religious organization).  Interestingly, it also classifies ‘an individual reasonably believed so to be by the person consulting the individual’ which I take to mean that if someone THINKS you are clergy and treats you as such, then legally you become clergy in the eyes of the state.  This has the potential to be problematic, as it opens up what it means to be ordained legally.  I feel that this is here, however, to protect people who think they are talking to clergy, meaning that if someone passes themselves off as clergy, consequences fall on the clergy, not the public who took your claim at face value.
This law also determines when communication with clergy is confidential, which is anytime it is privately done, with the exception of if it falls under the clauses for mandatory reporting of child abuse.

2) 765.002 Definitions.

This section of the Wisconsin Code defines various aspects of being clergy, which it defines as a ‘spiritual advisor of any religion’.  This is important as it again begins to blur lines as to what the full roles of clergy are, particularly in a pagan context where many people do their own magic work, their own divination, etc.
This section also defines church as ‘any congregation, parish, or place of worship at which any member of the clergy is located or assigned and also any administrative, missionary, welfare, or educational agency, institution, or organization affiliated with any religious denomination or society in this state.’  So a Grove would count as a church, but so would any office we utilized to do outreach work.
This section also defines the marriage certificate as including the part which contains information concerning the marriage ceremony and the signatures gathered as part of it.  It does NOT specify that it must be signed by clergy, although in practice I have never seen one that was not signed by the official.  Perhaps this is because Wisconsin views marriages as legal, civil contracts, not religious ones. 

3)  48.981 Abused or neglected children and abused unborn children.

                    This section of the code discusses who are considered mandatory reporters of child abuse.  It lists members of the clergy as well as members of religious orders.  It includes how documentation regarding this abuse is not confidential and can be subpoenaed. Further, it defines when someone has to report, including when one suspects abuse or neglect is occurring, or will occur in the situation.  It is worth noting that Wisconsin also has a category for abused unborn children.  It is unclear in the law, however, what constitutes abuse to an unborn child, making it seem like a way to prosecute pregnant women for additional charges if they do something dangerous while pregnant.

4)  58.01 Private institutions for orphans, indigents and delinquent children.

                    This section of the law states that any member of the clergy in good standing must have reasonable access to ‘inmates’ of their denomination for religious education and counselling. 

5) 252.06 Isolation and quarantine.

                    This section states that clergy are exempt from quarantines for communicable diseases and are allowed to continue to minister to the sick even when others are forbidden to have direct contact with the sick.  It does not address whether they will be quarantined as well, leaving that up to the local health officer.

6) 182.030 Corporations having church affiliations

                    This section of the law discusses how businesses that have a church affiliation as part of its articles of organization is under the supervision of that church.  This includes a statement to the effect that such a corporation can require its officers or trustees be members of that church.  It does NOT state that they can require all employees to be members of that church.

7) 187.01 Religious societies.


This section of the law stipulates the formation of religious societies/churches.  It requires having a minimum of three members over 18 years of age.  It states that they must maintain ‘regular public worship’ which has traditionally been one of the issues with getting neo-pagan groups recognized as churches.  It also lays out how such a church may determine to organize for charitable or educational purposes.  To do so, they must announce their intentions during a standard, public meeting of the church and have five or more adults who wish to be part of the organization.  They have to sign a certificate to acknowledge this, name at least three trustees, and write bylaws that determine the number of trustees, their terms of office, elections, and qualifications for membership.  They have to give notice of their first official meeting and who can vote.

8) 70.11 4a Educational, religious and benevolent institutions; women's clubs; historical societies; fraternities; libraries.

This section of the law discusses the owning of property.  It states that that property owned by churches is tax exempt so long as it is used for educational or religious purposes.  If the property is leased to another group, it only remains tax exempt if that group does not discriminate on the basis of race.  The law specifically says race, not any of the other things that people use to discriminate. 

9) Pastoral Counseling (Chapter 457)
              
Wisconsin recognizes Pastoral Counseling as separate from other types of counseling and does not require any sort of license to call oneself a Pastoral Counselor.  The only stipulation for those calling themselves pastoral counselors is that they do not misrepresent themselves as social workers or by other terms that denote any sort of licensure.  Additionally, Wisconsin law does not define pastoral counseling or proscribe any particular practices, such as divination, legally.
         


4) List nine (9) laws concerning clergy that you have found by searching your national laws.



1)     §1087vv. States that allowances for housing, food, and other allowances are untaxed for clergy (and military). (United States Code).
2)     §1402. (e) states that members of the clergy may opt out of Social Security and its associated insurance programs if it is against their religious beliefs by submitting a waiver form to both SSA and the religious body.  However doing this waives not just Social Security but all insurance.  (United States Code).
3)     §551.16 Discusses marriage ceremonies held in federal prisons.  If a Warden approves a marriage ceremony, then it can be performed by the prison chaplain, a community clergy member, or a justice of the peace.  Should an inmate want a community clergy member to perform the ceremony, then they would need to work with the chaplain to make sure that all of the rules of the prison were followed for the safety and order of the institution.  (Electronic Code of Federal Regulations)
4)     §1645.7 clarifies the circumstances under which one is considered clergy by the US Department of Defense.  It stipulates that being clergy and teaching the religious practices and texts of ones sect is the person’s primary duty/job.  Having a secular job is okay, but the religious job must be primary.  (Electronic Code of Federal Regulations)
5)     §404.1023   Ministers of churches and members of religious orders.  This section of code does many things including defining: a) what part of your work is considered ministry and what is considered self-employment for tax purposes; b) what it means to be ordained by going through a religious institution’s process so that a person is fully licensed and equipped to fulfill all duties of a church’s ministry; c) when work done by a minister is considered ministry and when it is not; d) when work done by a minister is not considered ministry it is then considered employment and regular employment laws cover it (such as Social Security); e) what sort of work is done in the name of a religious order doesn’t matter so long as it was assigned by a superior member of the religious order to carry out their mission.  (Electronic Code of Federal Regulations)
6)     §31.3121(b)(8)-2   Services in employ of religious, charitable, educational, or certain other organizations exempt from income tax.  If you choose, your work as clergy can be exempt from income tax.  This also means it is exempt from the other benefits of being employed (such as unemployment, etc).  (Electronic Code of Federal Regulations)
7)     §1645.5   Impartiality.  Department of Defense Promotion and Tenure Boards cannot discriminate for promotion based on the religion/sect of the person seeking promotion (Electronic Code of Federal Regulations)
8)     First Amendment to the US Constitution guarantees the rights of citizens that they shall never be forced to join or practice a specific religion.  It is frequently cited as the separation of church and state, although that phrase never actually appears in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights (Bill of Rights).
9)     505 U.S. 577 (1992). Discusses why clergy may not pray during events hosted by public schools, based on a case where a petitioner said that prayer at public school violated one’s constitutional right to freedom of religion.  (Justia).


5) How do laws of your nation, state, or local area respond to Paganism and Neo-Pagan clergy? Are there laws that prohibit certain functions our clergy usually serve (such as divination, counseling, or conducting marriages or funerals)? Does your country implicitly or explicitly state that Neo-Pagans cannot have clergy, or that they cannot perform certain functions or receive similar rights as those from other religions?


I have found nothing pertaining to specifically pagan clergy.  Quite the opposite, Wisconsin legal code seems to go out of its way to base its definitions around IRS status and ordination.  The closest I saw to an issue with it was that the state laws regarding prisoners had been changed to include Koran’s along with the bible, but nothing about other forms of religious literature was discussed (Wisconsin Statutes).  I suppose that could be a potential problem, especially for a path like ours that does not have a central dogmatic text.
Wisconsin has no laws around divination that I could find.  They do not require a license for ‘pastoral counseling’ but they also do not define it.  At this time, Wisconsin does seem to treat pagan clergy the same as any other, although to my knowledge that has not yet been tested in court.

6) Looking at those laws listed in questions 1 - 4 and how they affect you, are there any specific laws that seem out of place, unfair, or unjust? What is the avenue for change to these laws, and do you see change to these particular laws as necessary?


None of the laws seem particularly unjust in the sense that they would apply differently to pagan clergy than to clergy of mainstream denominations.  That said, I think it’s fair to say that perception of pagan clergy is different in working with other institutions, such as doing prison ministry, and so working through the laws is very important. 
The only law for Wisconsin that does not currently agree with ADF dogma, such that it is, has to do with defining marriage.  However, Wisconsin already has lawsuits in process challenging the current definition of marriage between one man and one woman (Seventh Circuit Court Cases).
               There are really two ways to go about changing laws  The first is through writing a new one (legislatively) and the second is through the courts (judicially).  The difficulty in changing laws is that you have to being by changing the attitude of the people they apply to.  It’s only when people begin to see a law as unjust that they begin working to change it.  First, they must accept that the law as it stands or is applied, is wrong, unjust, or unfair.  Then, an organized campaign to change the law begins.  The easiest way to change a law is through the courts.  If a law is being broken or carried out unfairly, then you can begin a lawsuit to bring about change.  This strategy also can be used when the law itself is unconstitutional.  Most religious discrimination cases are taken through the court system as a violation of the freedom of religion guaranteed to US Citizens under the first amendment.  This is still a matter of interpretation by the presiding judges, but most of the time blatant religious discrimination is stopped this way and the law redefined to keep it from happening again.
               The second route, trying to get legislation drafted, is harder.  It requires having someone in office sympathetic to the law you’re trying to get passed and being able to show them why it’s important enough for them to stick their neck out about it.  In Wisconsin, which is very much a red state at the moment, that isn’t likely to happen at the state level, and it’s doubtful that our representatives at the national level would be willing to work with Pagans. 

7) How do you see these laws affecting how you serve your Grove, ADF, or the community as a whole?


While it doesn’t pertain to clergy per say, the fact that our grove will likely be in public parks for public rituals and cannot have a fire (§ 9.7.06, American Legal Publishing Corporation) could be a problem that other clergy wouldn’t deal with.  The laws around property don’t discriminate and yet the relationship that pagans tend to have to their organizations is different enough that it could cause problems for a small grove looking to do public ritual without its own space.  Our grove will be able to have public rituals on private land, as I have been building a relationship with a local pagan intentional community that has allowed us to consecrate an oak grove for druid use.  That said, if we wanted to hold ritual on public land, this is problematic.  I have come up against this before dealing with Pagan Pride Days in public parks.

8) What is the difference between pastoral counseling and other kinds of counseling, and does the law differentiate between these types? What sort of license do you require in your state in order to perform counseling of any type? Does divination fall into this sort of counseling?


Pastoral Counseling is a unique form of psychotherapy that combines spiritual resources and traditional psychology (Counseling Center).   The main difference between Pastoral Counseling and other sorts of counseling is that pastoral counseling is done from within the framework of the patient’s spirituality. 
In Wisconsin, Statute 457 defines all matters of counseling, including licensure and limitations.  Pastoral Counseling does not require a license, unlike pretty much every other sort of counseling designated.  That said, people engaged in Pastoral Counseling are not allowed to do any of the following (Wisconsin Statutes, Section 457.04):
·        Use the title "social worker" unless the person is certified as a social worker under this chapter.
·        Use the title "advanced practice social worker" unless the person is certified as an advanced practice social worker under this chapter.
·        Use the title "independent social worker" unless the person is certified as an independent social worker under this chapter.
·        Practice clinical social work or designate himself or herself as a clinical social worker or use or assume the title "clinical social worker" or any other title or designation that represents or may tend to represent the person as a clinical social worker unless the person is licensed as a clinical social worker under this chapter or unless the person is certified under this chapter as an advanced practice social worker or independent social worker and the person practices clinical social work under the supervision of a person who is licensed as a clinical social worker under this chapter.
·        Practice marriage and family therapy or designate himself or herself as a marriage and family therapist or use or assume the title "marriage and family therapist," "marriage and family counselor," or any other title or designation that represents or may tend to represent the person as a marriage and family therapist unless the person is licensed as a marriage and family therapist under this chapter.
·        Practice professional counseling or designate himself or herself as a professional counselor or use or assume the title "professional counselor," "professional rehabilitation counselor," "vocational rehabilitation counselor," "rehabilitation counselor," or any other title or designation that represents or may tend to represent the person as a professional counselor unless the person is licensed as a professional counselor under this chapter.
·        Practice psychotherapy unless the person is licensed under this chapter or unless the person is a certificate holder who may practice psychotherapy under the rules promulgated under ss. 457.03 and 457.035.
·                  Practice clinical social work, marriage and family therapy, or professional counseling without notifying his or her client in writing of the procedure to follow to resolve a grievance.
  Divination is not listed among the prohibited practices, nor does it show up at all in any of the local codes.  The various licensed forms of counseling obtain their license through completion of an advanced degree program, an exam, and then submitting paperwork to the various licensing boards that oversee them (457.06).  Wisconsin does not have a board to oversee clergy (or others) practicing pastoral counseling.
Pastoral Counseling is not defined legally.  Because of this, it also does not have insurance for malpractice.  This is true for all religious counseling, not just pagan.  Therefore, there is no protection for engaging in pastoral counseling.  Usually, one of the tenants of pastoral counseling is to only counsel those who are members of your group, as discussed in Kevin Gardner’s The Pagan Clergy’s Guide.

           

9)     Describe the mandatory reporting laws in your area and how they affect you as a clergyperson. Explain the process you would go through to file a report if it were necessary.


The mandatory reporting laws focus on Child Abuse, Elder Abuse, and Domestic Violence.  Cases of child abuse must be reported if there is a suspicion.  Elder Abuse seems a bit fuzzier and it seems that reporting would be based to some extent on their health and cognitive ability.  Domestic violence requires you to report if you are asked to, or if you witness the abuse.  You cannot report on suspicion or hearsay.
There is no discussion of mandatory reporting at the local or county level.  All mandatory reporting is legislated at the state level and the national level.  In Wisconsin, the law states a member of the clergy shall report if the member of the clergy has reasonable cause, based on observations made or information that he or she receives, to suspect that a member of the clergy has abused a child, threatened a child with abuse and has cause to think that abuse of the child will likely occur.  However, a member of the clergy is not required to report child abuse information that he or she receives solely through confidential communications made to him or her privately or in a confessional setting if he or she is authorized to hear or is accustomed to hearing such communications and, under the disciplines, tenets, or traditions of his or her religion, has a duty or is expected to keep those communications secret. Those disciplines, tenets, or traditions need not be in writing (Wisconsin Statutes).
What this means is that we are mandatory reporters unless we find out about the abuse in a counseling session.  If we do, then we are not required to report it IF there is the expectation on the part of the person making the disclosure that we will not report it (ie in a confessional setting).  However, I do not believe that in ADF we have the concept of confession such that it would apply in this setting.
A report of child abuse can be made to either Children’s Protective Services (CPS) or a local law enforcement agency.  Depending on where in the state you are, one might be more responsive than another to the situation at hand.  Where I live, CPS is only staffed 10 hours a week, and so it is significantly easier to contact law enforcement and let them contact the CPS worker if they feel that it is an emergency that needs their immediate attention.  In my home county, the Sherriff’s office deals with this, as they are the only law enforcement that is staffed 24/7.   The steps I would take would be to call the Sherriff’s office and speak with the deputy, they would take my report over the phone and either dispatch a unit to investigate if it was an emergency situation where there was immediate danger, or would pass the information on to CPS.  While I could make a report anonymously, they are taken more seriously if you are willing to sign it and appear in court.  In the past, I have done both depending on the level of involvement I had with the situation.  The closer my involvement, the more likely I have seen it first hand, the harder it is to make the call but also the more important to give my contact information for following up.





Works Cited:
American Legal Publishing Corporation.  City of Medford, WI Code of Ordinances.  Current through 12/31/13.  Web.  Accessed 11/8/14.
Bill of Rights.  National Archives.  Web.  Accessed on 11/8/14.
Counseling Center.  American Association of Pastoral Counseling.  A Definition of Pastoral Counseling.  Web.  Accessed 11/8/14.
Electronic Code of Federal Regulations.  U.S. Government Printing Office.  Current through 11/6/14.  Web.  Accessed 11/8/14.
Gardner,  Kevin.  The Pagan Clergy’s Guide: For Counseling, Crisis Intervention, and Otherworld Transitions.  Temple of Ishtar, 2009.  Kindle Edition.
Justia.  US Supreme Court: Lee v Weisman: 505 U.S. 577.  1992.  Web.  Accessed 11/8/14.
Seventh Circuit Court Cases.  Walker v Wolf: 2014.  Current 10/6/14.  Web.  Accessed 11/8/14.
United States Code.  Office of the Law Revision Counsel of the United States House of Representatives.  Current through 11/7/14.  Web.  Accessed 11/8/14.
Wisconsin Statutes.  2011-12 Wisconsin Statutes & Annotations and all Supreme Court Orders entered before November 4, 2014.  Updated through 2013 Wisconsin Act 380. Published November 3, 2014. Web.  Accessed 11/8/14.



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